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15/8/2009 at the foot of the page
Asda
Roundabout (Road Safety) Progress Report.
I
visited the Labour Party office in Tilbury yesterday 29/7/2009
regarding any progress Councilor Morris or the RT Hon
MP Andrew McKinley may have made regarding the incorrect
Asda roundabout information sign.
At
a recent meeting the RT Hon MP said that he would request
that Thurrock Council Highways change the incorrect Asda
roundabout information sign back
to show a safe direction passage to the A1089 from Tilbury,
if this request is not granted, he would call an on site
meeting with Essex Police and the appropriate people.
The
young lady receptionist in the office informed me she
would look into the matter for us, I will keep you all
updated as a response arrives.
Driving Instructors
Are Still Teaching the Clock System
What is the Best Lane to Select for my Manoeuvre?
Thurrock council must take into account that
new drivers and strangers that visit Thurrock will be
expecting Thurrock council to provide a high level of
road safety, one of the ways of doing this is by having
in place the correct information road signage that will
allow drivers to carry out safe maneuvers at
all junctions.
New
drivers and strangers to Thurrock that are not familiar
with the road layout at Junction should adapt to the clock
system!
 Unless
road markings or road sign direct otherwise.
The
Clock System (As
a guide)
Two Lane Approach
When viewing a roundabout main information sign, think
of a clock.
any exit you require from 6'oclock up to and including
12'olcock use the left hand lane, any exit you need after
12'oclock use the right hand lane
Unless
road signs or marking inform otherwise.
Thurrock
Council Highways
Have Got This Information Sign Wrong
Thurrock Council Highway's Must Act Now.
If Thurrock Council really has our interest in
road safety to heart they should take a leaf out of the
Highways agency's book regarding the correct information
road sign that should be in place approaching the Asda
roundabout from Tilbury, check out the Highways Agency's
roads signs below.
This
Road Sign Gives Incorrect Information.
The road sign shown below is in place at this present
moment in time and is giving all road users the wrong
information regarding the Safest route to negotiate on
the roundabout if you are intending to go from Tilbury
to the A13, M25 or Grays.
The
Council Breaks Our Agreement.
It was agreed by the Highways Engineer Mr Peter
Tilbury who was the Highways department Engineer at Thurrock
Council in 1998 that the road sign in place at this present
moment in time that is giving out the wrong information
would be temporary converted or changed.
Council
Letter Of the Agreement.
The Council has changed the letter from what was agreed
at the Meeting with me and there is no mention in the
letter of the temporary plates that was
agreed to overcome the present problem!
(Click
the image to enlarge)
 How
The Road Sign Should Be Amended.
Mr Tilbury suggested that having two temporary
plates made up, one to cover up the wrong direction, and
the other plate showing the correct direction would solve
the problem temporary until new sign was installed as
agreed.
The Highways
Agency
Got it Right!
Highways
Agency (contractors) Set An Excellent Example.
The
Highways Agency's contractors working on the A1089 (Dock
approach road) over the period November to December 2004
to correct the flooding problems had no trouble in displaying
the correct information sign regarding Tilbury to the
A13 / A1089 as the photo below shows.
More
Facts
New
Road Signs For Old
The Highways agency has now completed all of the work
on the A1089 Dock approach road, and in doing so they
replaced all of the old road signs in the area with new
one's that they were working on in November and December
2004.
The
new green road sign below shows Tilbury as a left turn
as you approach the Asda roundabout driving south from
London!
It goes without saying, when driving out of Tilbury
with the intension of going to Grays or London, the maneuver
is a right turn.
More
Facts
.Thurrock
Council Gets It Wrong using the Ordinance Survey Map.
Thurrock Council Highways are saying that the
road out of Tilbury is shown as ahead on the ordinance
survey map!
This
is not true as the ordinance survey map image below will
confirm, it shows St Andrews road from Tilbury Ferry and
Tilbury dock's as ahead to the A1089, Thurrock council
highways also appear to be ignoring all of the other evidence
and facts to the outstanding argument.
The
ordinance survey map below quite clearly shows St
Andrews road to the A1089 to Gray and London to
the north as AHEAD |
More
Facts
Even
the reliable Sat Navs are giving drivers the correct directions
for a Safe manoeuvre through the Asda Roundabout from
Tilbury to the A1089
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the image to enlarge
SAT
NAV. (Voice Instruction)
At the roundabout turn right, take the third exit.
More
Facts
Asda Roundabout
Viewed From Goggle Earth
Google
Earth Clearly Shows St Andrews Road
To London (A1089) as AHEAD |
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the image to enlarge
When
approaching the roundabout from Tilbury
and having to giveway at the giveway
line
The A1089 to Grays and London is
Viewed at 3'oclock!!
A
Thurrock Councilors Sarcastic Remarks
Will
Not Win Vote's
What
Was Thurrock's Chafford & North Stifford Councilor
Thinking!
I sent an email asking serving Chafford and North
Stifford Cllr Neil Rockliffe the Thurrock Conservative
Portfolio Holder for Highways transportation for
assistance to try to resolve the Asda incorrect
road sign dispute.
Cllr
Neil Rockliffe should be ashamed of himself.
Check
out his reply reply below. |
Mr
Toomey,
Thanks
for your e-mail. I looked at your web site some
time ago and, as I declared on there, more than
willing to work with you to get this resolved.
However,
As a Conservative, I am more than willing to give
"The Labour Party" a chance to sort this
out.
I
am sure, as you have found so far, the Labour Party
in Thurrock including our MP are the party of non-action.
Thanks,
Neil
The
Conservative Councilor Wants To Pass
The Problem To Labour?
Cllr
Rockliffe Puts His Party Before Road Safety.
It appears that Thurrock's
Conservative Cllr Neil Rockliffe's Priorities are
more concerned with scoring political points rather
taking up this very serious outstanding Thurrock
road Safety issue!!
Thurrock
Voters Take Note.
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A Meeting Took
place
21/01/2009
Asda Roundabout (Feed Back)
Road
Safety (Tilbury) feed Back – 21/1/2009
A meeting took place today that was very kindly
arranged by the Thurrock Cllr and Conservative leader
Terry Hipsey regarding the long outstanding Road
Safety problem regarding the incorrect Asda roundabout
leader board.
Also
present at the meeting was Thurrock Highways engineer
Les Burns and supporting me with my ongoing road
safety argument was the high ADI grade Thurrock
driving instructor Mrs P.Tredwell.
I
believe the meeting was again very constructive
although very frustrating at times due to technical
arguments from both side’ however, Leader
of Thurrock Council Cllr T.Hipsey said that he would
look into getting the long outstanding problem sorted
out and also he has suggested improving road safety
at the Asda roundabout by introducing road markings
as well as correcting the dodgy road sign that is
in place at this present moment in time.
Many
Thanks To Thurrock Ex Conservative Council Leader
- Cllr Terry Hipsey
Cllr
Hipsey has now resigned from the Conservative Party
and crossed the floor to join the Labour party.
I wonder what really made him step down as leader
of the conservative Party!
The
Asda Road Sign Has Been Built In Sections.
I also brought to Cllr Hipsey attention that the
incorrect Asda road sign has been assembled in sections!
and only a part or parts of the sign need
to be replaced.
Click
the Picture to enlarge
Recent
Update
Thurrock Highways Reply
19/2/2009
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Asda
Roundabout Incorrect Road Sign
UPDATE - 13/3/2009
A Thurrock Councils Highways
spokes person has informed us that he and
Cllr Rockliffe see no reason to change the
incorrect Asda roundabout road sign in question.
You
can read all of the facts and enlarge the
pictures that are above.
Thurrock Highways
and the Conservative Cllr Neil Rockliffe
appear to have arrived at a premature closure
decision on the incorrect Asda road sign.
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Thurrock
Road Safety Will Prevail
I
anticipate this outstanding road Safety argument
continuing on.
If this is the case it will be necessary for this
serious outstanding road safety argument to move
up to a higher level and hopefully involve the Local
Rt Hon MP for Thurrock Mr Andrew McKinley and other
Professional bodies.
|
20/4/2009 - Update
| New
Information That I Received Today.
A recent letter received from Thurrock Council complaints
department informing me that Thurrock Councils Highways
and the Thurrock Conservative Holder for Highways
and Transportation have decided NOT
to change the the incorrect road sign in question.
A New diagram has also been received from
Thurrock Council.
Sadly the new amended sign changes that have been
proposed within the new diagram show no improvements
in road safety that would benefits road users at
the Asda roundabout location, and therefore could
NOT be acceptable to resolve the
outstanding road safety problem.
Thurrock Council Highways have also informed me
that Essex Police and the DSA have been approached
for there views to help to resolve this ongoing
road safety problem,
| Putting
My Side Of The Argument |
I have also contacted the same to put my side of
the story, Essex Police, did respond.
The Old Road Sign Used To Show A Right Turn!
A meeting that took place today 20/4/2009 with myself
and the DSA spokes person that consulted with Thurrock
Council was successful and the new information received
has reinforced my road safety argument that allows
me to move the argument up to a higher level.
Its
Time For Me To Move Up A Gear.
I must now arrange a meeting with Labour Councilor
Mr Carl Morris and the RT Hon MP for Thurrock Mr
Andrew McKinley regarding this outstanding road
safety problem, the new Labour Councilor Mr Terry
Hipsey should also be aware of updated progress
due to him already having knowledge of the facts
from a recent meeting that was arranged and took
place with Thurrock council Highways.
I
am Utterly Disgusted.
Only the New Labour
Councilor Terry Hipsey bothered to visit
the site, well done Labour Cllr Hipsey.
|
Thurrock's Conservative
Portfolio Holder for Highways
Closes The Door
24/4/2009 - Update
Its
A Black Day For
The Thurrock Conservative Party
A
letter has now been received from Thurrock Council
and confirms that the Conservative Councilor and
Portfolio Holder for Highways has made a final decision
regarding replacing the Asda roundabout sign in
Tilbury that is displaying the wrong signage.
The
Conservative Councilor and Portfolio Holder for
Highways says the Asda roundabout sign that is giving
out the wrong information shall remain unaltered!
The
Thurrock Conservative party should be ashamed of
themselves, they have allowed the standards of road
safety in Thurrock to fall once again.
The
Conservative Councilor and Portfolio Holder for
Highways never even bothered to arrange a meeting
with me to view all of the facts before arriving
at a very irresponsible decision.
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Thurrock's Labour
Party
Takes a More Responsible Stance
24/4/2009 - Update
(Click
The Image to enlarge)
The
RT Hon MP for Thurrock Did Not Hesitate.
Having
taken all of the appropriate steps through the negative
Conservative administration and getting a very dismal
result left me no option other than to approach
the RT Hon MP for Thurrock Mr Andrew McKinley.
I
Could Now See A Light At The End Of The Tunnel.
Within minutes of meeting the Labour Councilor
Mr Carl Morris at the Tilbury Labour Party office
and explaining and producing images and facts of
my Thurrock road Safety concerns a meeting was arranged
with the Rt Hon MP for Thurrock for the next day.
Thurrock's RT Hon MP Takes The Argument Forward.
I am very grateful to Thurrock's Labour
MP Mr Andrew McKinley for taking time out to attend
a meeting with me at very short notice at the Tilbury
Labour Party office in Tilbury.
I
Think My Frustration With The Past Conservatives
May Have Shown.
Mr Andrew McKinley was very patient when I spread
my road safety facts and images across the desk
while he listened intently to my concerns.
Thank You.
Finally I would like to thank Thurrock's MP Mr Andrew
Mckinley for his own positive road safety concerns
and his commitment to take on and resolve my long
outstanding road safety problem that the
Thurrock Conservative Party's (administration) could
not sort out.
I
take my hat of to the Labour Party In Thurrock (Well
Done)
Update's
as and when I receive them.
Latest
Update - 14/8/2009
MP
Andrew McKinlay Follows Up Our Road Safety Complaint.
I have received a letter today from the RT Hon MP
Andrew McKinlay's House of Commons office with two
interim letter attached from Thurrock Council and
the Highway Agency regarding the ongoing disputed
road signage (Sign) at the Asda roundabout Tilbury.
The
correspondence is proof that the RT Hon MP Andrew
McKinlay is a man of his word when he says he will
pursue the ongoing and outstanding road safety complaint
with vigor.
This
site will keep all updated of the outcome.
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Many
Accidents Have taken Place
On The Asda Roundabout. |
Over
turned Truck On The Asda Roundabout
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